thought experiment on importing

[charmian]

Poll #4361 thought experiment on importation

Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 44

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1. What if someone created a Facebook App that would allow LJ users to import their own journals, AND comments left on those journals to Facebook. Assume that the entries and comments would be imported in their entirety, with comments attributed to the LJ usernames of those who posted them. Assume that non-public entries would remain non-public, and filters would be assigned to filtered entries. What would you think about this? Assume that you were able to delete content left by you that you have access to.

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I'd oppose it/be offended by it.
16 (36.4%)

I would have no opinion/be indifferent.
23 (52.3%)

I would be very pleased by this.
2 (4.5%)

I would use this FB app to import my journal to Facebook.
1 (2.3%)

Other (please specify)
6 (13.6%)

2. What if someone created an FB App which could import LJ comms to an FB group. Assume similar conditions to the above.

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I'd oppose it/be offended by it.
18 (40.9%)

I would have no opinion/be indifferent.
24 (54.5%)

I would be very pleased by this.
1 (2.3%)

I would use this FB app to import my comm to Facebook.
1 (2.3%)

Other (please specify)
4 (9.1%)

edit: ugh, grammar fail. I forgot a question mark. -_-

Comments

[charmian]

Hmm, if it makes things clearer, I was specifically meaning Facebook itself.

[dingsi]

Yeah, but... like... is it supposed to count when I go "Do with your journal and your community what you want, but I really hate Facebook"? Probably not. *hands*

(sorry about the edits, but DW is being pretty wonky for me today and keeps loading blanks or switching icons)

[charmian]

I guess what I mean is would you be offended/oppose a Facebook App which would allow people to import their journals, complete with comments, into Facebook? So the question is specifically about whether specifically importing LJ journals and communities to FB is okay with you. (So therefore, it doesn't address the case of importing LJ journals/communities to Wordpress, Typepad, Ning, or any platforms other than Facebook.)

[dingsi]

Ah, so it's not about finding (even if just out of curiosity) a hypothetical means to import to FB in ways that won't piss people off, to further pin down what users would need? I assumed you were reacting to earlier discussions where Dreamwidth was accused of being just like LJ because they had a this tool that imported posts and comments, and where people went into detail on the Hows and Whys of offensive vs. non-offensive importing. So I guess I got stuck on the How part instead of the If part? Or something. Honestly, I'll just stop talking now.

[charmian]

Nah, it's fine. I'm sorry if the poll was confusing? It was vaguely inspired by previous discussions about why no one was offended by the way Wordpress can import comments, but some people were offended by Dreamwidth's importation. So we were wondering whether this was because (some) people have a distrustful opinion of Dreamwidth, or whether the nature of Wordpress makes it different, so I began to wonder if given the negative feelings that people have about FB, whether that would make a difference.

[noracharles]

I don't know why, I was not offended, and did use the comment import function myself, but from what I've seen people saying:

Wordpress is being held up as a geek's paradise - options! So many options! And people who aren't into that don't care.

Dreamwidth is being held up as Social Justice Central, the place where we're better than you and proud of it! - and people who aren't into that are naturally put off and feel an urge to prove that they're not bad and evil people who hate the non-binary gendered, and that maybe Dreamwidthers aren't perfect either.

It's a shame that that perception of Dreamwidth is so widespread, but not surprising given the behavior of some of the loud Dreamwidth evangelists on livejournal and journalfen.

I think with time people will see that Dreamwidth is just a journaling service. A very nifty, rapidly improving journaling service with fundamental principles of accessibility for all, but still, a journaling service, not a cult or a political movement, and all sorts of people are customers here.