charmian: a snowy owl (Default)
[personal profile] charmian
By now, I'm sure that everyone has heard about how LJ is purging inactive accounts.

See here for a more detailed explanation of what's going on there:
http://soph.livejournal.com/206549.html

Anyway, as currently stated, the purge most likely will not affect most users negatively. It seems the only users positively affected by the change are those seeking to rename to a desired-but-in-use username, although it seems that many of those people aren't satisfied anyway because the username they wanted isn't going to be up for deletion.

I wonder what technical or other benefits the deletion/purgation of inactive user accounts has? Does it somehow reduce the strain on the site?

Date: 2010-07-16 11:57 am (UTC)
synecdochic: torso of a man wearing jeans, hands bound with belt (Default)
From: [personal profile] synecdochic
It really doesn't help (disk is cheap), and indeed can hurt -- database fragmentation means that lookups become more inefficient. IMO the only reason to do this is to free up usernames, thus fueling the purchase of rename tokens.

Date: 2010-07-16 01:33 pm (UTC)
damned_colonial: Convicts in Sydney, being spoken to by a guard/soldier (Default)
From: [personal profile] damned_colonial
If they're deleting comments by the inactive users as well as entries, it might clean up spam I guess? But I would have thought it was a drop in the ocean.

Date: 2010-07-16 04:59 pm (UTC)
sophie: A cartoon-like representation of a girl standing on a hill, with brown hair, blue eyes, a flowery top, and blue skirt. ☀ (Default)
From: [personal profile] sophie
They're not deleting comments made anywhere other than the journal that's being purged; that's only happening for suspended users, as far as I know.

Date: 2010-07-17 06:07 am (UTC)
azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
Since spammers get suspended, that would in fact clean up spam.

Date: 2010-07-16 04:41 pm (UTC)
foxfirefey: A guy looking ridiculous by doing a fashionable posing with a mouse, slinging the cord over his shoulders. (geek)
From: [personal profile] foxfirefey
I've seen some code in [livejournal.com profile] changelog to address consolidating users on clusters, I think, so I think they're addressing that problem.

Date: 2010-07-16 10:49 pm (UTC)
trixieleitz: sepia-toned drawing of a woman in Jazz Age costume, relaxing with a glass of wine. Text: Trixie (Default)
From: [personal profile] trixieleitz
It's been requested fairly frequently by the userbase, but I'm not starry-eyed enough to believe that the LJsuits use that criterion as any kind of basis for decision-making ;)

It's been an article of faith for me that it's not the data, it's the bandwidth and database calls that affect site performance; an account that no-one views costs nothing. An account that isn't being updated but that other people still look at costs bandwidth, sure, but it could also generate ad views and new users.

But you know all this anyway :)

Date: 2010-07-17 02:15 am (UTC)
sub_divided: cos it gets me through, hope you never stop (Default)
From: [personal profile] sub_divided
R says that when you purge the database, you improve performance because the speed of retrieval improves. "It's not about space, it's about speed: space is not that cheap when you look at it from a bandwidth perspective." She also says that the enterprise-level database licenses and system and database admins that come with new servers are not that cheap.

Date: 2010-07-17 04:53 am (UTC)
foxfirefey: A guy looking ridiculous by doing a fashionable posing with a mouse, slinging the cord over his shoulders. (geek)
From: [personal profile] foxfirefey
enterprise-level database licenses

Not to disagree entirely, since it's quite possible LiveJournal has a service contract with the company that owns MySQL, but they don't necessarily have any of these licensing expenses; and it's also possible that even if they did have a service contract with MySQL, that it wouldn't be server-based.

That being said, database admins aren't cheap, this is true. However, LiveJournal's drastically cut down on US operations staff in the past couple of years.

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