Entitlement Complex alert!!!
Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 10:41 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
charmianWhoa, someone gets a personal response from LJ management and staff to their suggestion, and they get all insistent that they are SOOO SPECIAL that they must have an exception to an LJ policy put into place for performance reasons. (To clarify matters, I don't believe it's an illegitimate suggestion or that she's wanky for suggesting it. I think it's wanky that she insists an exception be made for her because she wants it sooo much, and she doesn't understand that making a suggestion means she's asking for a policy change which applies to everyone (or a certain class of user, like 'all paid users'))
But I don't understand why there's this brouhaha, when there is a very simple solution to the problem. All the poster needs to do is create a community where only she can post, then allow all of these people to join. A community can have like... up to 90,000 members, so her problem should be solved then. I also don't see why permanent members should be treated like a privileged aristocracy, better than the paid users. IMHO, there should not be features permanent members receive that paid users cannot also potentially receive.
However, the poster's complex about NEEDING to friend people (even though she has no personal relationship with them) who friend her ("I want everyone to feel like they are welcome. I don't want to favor anyone by friending some people and not others. I don't feel that it's fair to not friend back those that took the initiative to friend me. If this happened to another person's journal that I wanted to read, I would be pretty upset. It's similar to a member's only community where membership is open. ") is in a way, just the sort of thing which could be solved with Dreamwidth's WTF system.
BTW, I also think she uh... kind of confused about wanting simultaneously privacy, yet friending back anyone who friends her. She's been on LJ spotlight and granted interviews to anime websites. Why in the world doesn't she think that a "random user stopping by on the web to see, who doesn't know anything about livejournal (aka people related to my jobs, or family members, etc)" won't see her content? LJ is not a magical thing which makes her journal invisible. Neither is Japanese as much of a language barrier as one thinks it is... I've known people working in Japan who were in BIG trouble because of their English language blogs, is all I shall say.
ETA: http://hinoai.livejournal.com/721728.html?thread=11505728&style=mine#t11505728
Ha, now she's encouraging her readers to petition LJ. Someone on her flist tries to talk sense to her and explain that hmmm maybe it's not a good idea to encourage people to pester LJ.
"honestly the way I see it, my request should have been solved immediately with a simple "okay, we raised the limit for you, thanks!" So by creating all of this problems and lying to me, I feel like it needs to be brought to the forefront."
LJ staff were unaware of the previous exception, Marta (an LJ staff member) explains, and not lying to her. I don't see why it's so hard for her to understand that if LJ gives her an exception, in fairness they will have to give one to all, and also, that doing this hastily might negatively affect site performance.
Marta also adds: "Please don't feel you need to make a nuisance of yourself; you do have our attention and numerous people have spent quite a bit of time investigating this today. "
But I don't understand why there's this brouhaha, when there is a very simple solution to the problem. All the poster needs to do is create a community where only she can post, then allow all of these people to join. A community can have like... up to 90,000 members, so her problem should be solved then. I also don't see why permanent members should be treated like a privileged aristocracy, better than the paid users. IMHO, there should not be features permanent members receive that paid users cannot also potentially receive.
However, the poster's complex about NEEDING to friend people (even though she has no personal relationship with them) who friend her ("I want everyone to feel like they are welcome. I don't want to favor anyone by friending some people and not others. I don't feel that it's fair to not friend back those that took the initiative to friend me. If this happened to another person's journal that I wanted to read, I would be pretty upset. It's similar to a member's only community where membership is open. ") is in a way, just the sort of thing which could be solved with Dreamwidth's WTF system.
BTW, I also think she uh... kind of confused about wanting simultaneously privacy, yet friending back anyone who friends her. She's been on LJ spotlight and granted interviews to anime websites. Why in the world doesn't she think that a "random user stopping by on the web to see, who doesn't know anything about livejournal (aka people related to my jobs, or family members, etc)" won't see her content? LJ is not a magical thing which makes her journal invisible. Neither is Japanese as much of a language barrier as one thinks it is... I've known people working in Japan who were in BIG trouble because of their English language blogs, is all I shall say.
ETA: http://hinoai.livejournal.com/721728.html?thread=11505728&style=mine#t11505728
Ha, now she's encouraging her readers to petition LJ. Someone on her flist tries to talk sense to her and explain that hmmm maybe it's not a good idea to encourage people to pester LJ.
"honestly the way I see it, my request should have been solved immediately with a simple "okay, we raised the limit for you, thanks!" So by creating all of this problems and lying to me, I feel like it needs to be brought to the forefront."
LJ staff were unaware of the previous exception, Marta (an LJ staff member) explains, and not lying to her. I don't see why it's so hard for her to understand that if LJ gives her an exception, in fairness they will have to give one to all, and also, that doing this hastily might negatively affect site performance.
Marta also adds: "Please don't feel you need to make a nuisance of yourself; you do have our attention and numerous people have spent quite a bit of time investigating this today. "
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Date: 2009-04-29 05:13 pm (UTC)Eh, I can see why in her situation it would be easy for her to develop that attitude. XD I mean, she's an assistant on a manga and she's doing some kind of show biz work in Japan.
Yeah. She doesn't know who these people are, and who they might be talking to. However, she claims she does have filters, so perhaps she's not that irrational. She seems to think that if she doesn't friend them back they'll feel "unwelcome."
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Date: 2009-04-29 06:05 pm (UTC)Well, if she's using filters at least she's being slightly sensible about it. Still, you'd think it'd be obvious that certain levels of privacy and 'friend everyone!' policy are mutually exclusive with LJ's setup--unless you're going to automatically filter all your locked entries andkeep 90% of whoever you've friended off that filter or something.
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Date: 2009-04-29 10:26 pm (UTC)Yeah... If she wants to do that, I think a community is really the best step, so I don't understand at all why she just doesn't do that, since it would appear to solve most of the problems.
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Date: 2009-04-30 07:52 am (UTC)I do recall that there was some incident or other (this would have been sometime between April 2001 and May 2004; I could probably track down when if I cared) where there was an upset between her and the entire rest of the club. I learned about this in the mass-defriending that ensued. When I mentioned it to the rest of the club, I got an earful, but I don't recall any of the details now, only that the rest of the club was very, very angry.
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