charmian: a snowy owl (Default)
[personal profile] charmian
Whoa, someone gets a personal response from LJ management and staff to their suggestion, and they get all insistent that they are SOOO SPECIAL that they must have an exception to an LJ policy put into place for performance reasons. (To clarify matters, I don't believe it's an illegitimate suggestion or that she's wanky for suggesting it. I think it's wanky that she insists an exception be made for her because she wants it sooo much, and she doesn't understand that making a suggestion means she's asking for a policy change which applies to everyone (or a certain class of user, like 'all paid users'))

But I don't understand why there's this brouhaha, when there is a very simple solution to the problem. All the poster needs to do is create a community where only she can post, then allow all of these people to join. A community can have like... up to 90,000 members, so her problem should be solved then. I also don't see why permanent members should be treated like a privileged aristocracy, better than the paid users. IMHO, there should not be features permanent members receive that paid users cannot also potentially receive.

However, the poster's complex about NEEDING to friend people (even though she has no personal relationship with them) who friend her ("I want everyone to feel like they are welcome. I don't want to favor anyone by friending some people and not others. I don't feel that it's fair to not friend back those that took the initiative to friend me. If this happened to another person's journal that I wanted to read, I would be pretty upset. It's similar to a member's only community where membership is open. ") is in a way, just the sort of thing which could be solved with Dreamwidth's WTF system.

BTW, I also think she uh... kind of confused about wanting simultaneously privacy, yet friending back anyone who friends her. She's been on LJ spotlight and granted interviews to anime websites. Why in the world doesn't she think that a "random user stopping by on the web to see, who doesn't know anything about livejournal (aka people related to my jobs, or family members, etc)" won't see her content? LJ is not a magical thing which makes her journal invisible. Neither is Japanese as much of a language barrier as one thinks it is... I've known people working in Japan who were in BIG trouble because of their English language blogs, is all I shall say.

ETA: http://hinoai.livejournal.com/721728.html?thread=11505728&style=mine#t11505728

Ha, now she's encouraging her readers to petition LJ. Someone on her flist tries to talk sense to her and explain that hmmm maybe it's not a good idea to encourage people to pester LJ.

"honestly the way I see it, my request should have been solved immediately with a simple "okay, we raised the limit for you, thanks!" So by creating all of this problems and lying to me, I feel like it needs to be brought to the forefront."

LJ staff were unaware of the previous exception, Marta (an LJ staff member) explains, and not lying to her. I don't see why it's so hard for her to understand that if LJ gives her an exception, in fairness they will have to give one to all, and also, that doing this hastily might negatively affect site performance.

Marta also adds: "Please don't feel you need to make a nuisance of yourself; you do have our attention and numerous people have spent quite a bit of time investigating this today. "

Date: 2009-04-29 04:07 pm (UTC)
troisroyaumes: Painting of a duck, with the hanzi for "summer" in the top left (Default)
From: [personal profile] troisroyaumes
Wow, the immaturity is kind of astounding. And yeah, she's not the first person to face this problem nor the last, but everyone else seems to have found a workaround without throwing a hissy fit. E.g. [livejournal.com profile] mina_de_malfois went with the community option, so I don't see why that's not possible. (Granted, it's probably more intuitive to host a fictional creation on a comm than it is a personal journal.)

Date: 2009-04-29 04:38 pm (UTC)
bunners: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bunners
wow, isn't she a special little snowflake? *eyeroll*

Date: 2009-04-29 04:49 pm (UTC)
bunners: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bunners
dude, i've never been featured on lj spotlight, but i too have a permanent account. does that make me at least ~LJ NOBILITY~?

if so, i want a goddamned crest on my profile. maybe i should start a support ticket, and urge my friends to spam the lj team until they give in to my ridiculous demands. HM.



Date: 2009-04-29 05:04 pm (UTC)
keelieinblack: (tread carefully)
From: [personal profile] keelieinblack
Huh. I've seen other people complain about the self-centeredness of this particular user before, but I'd wondered if it was just the result of a bad fandom blowout or something. Apparently she does think she's a little more Special than the rest of us.

(I too am befuddled by her supposed concern for privacy when she admits to friending anyone and everyone who friends her. In what universe does that make any sense?)

Date: 2009-04-29 05:10 pm (UTC)
bunners: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bunners
well, that just reinforces my personal view of myself as one of the ~LJ ELITE~ dispite my deliberately small friendslist and plans to move over here.

CLEARLY. i mean, isn't that what we all learned in kindergarden? if you scream loudly enough, someone will give you what you want just to make you shut the hell up.

Date: 2009-04-29 05:15 pm (UTC)
bunners: (i only look sweet and innocent)
From: [personal profile] bunners
see, she wants to make everyone feel ~welcome~ and ~special~ for friending her, and she occasionally wants to talk to people who are ~just on lj.~


oh hell, scratch all that. her reasons don't matter! the lj staff should have just changed the policy for her, and then sent her a cake to make up for the trauma that she undoubtedly experienced as a result of this unfortunate situation.

Date: 2009-04-29 06:05 pm (UTC)
keelieinblack: (loveless: shy)
From: [personal profile] keelieinblack
I was never much into the fandom so the details are outside of my knowledge (and what I have come across is locked...), but there seem to be a number of various Tenipuri fans and former fans who loathe her, and not in a purely envious "she is living the fandom dream and enjoying it" kind of way.

Well, if she's using filters at least she's being slightly sensible about it. Still, you'd think it'd be obvious that certain levels of privacy and 'friend everyone!' policy are mutually exclusive with LJ's setup--unless you're going to automatically filter all your locked entries andkeep 90% of whoever you've friended off that filter or something.

Date: 2009-04-29 06:17 pm (UTC)
keelieinblack: (loveless: shy)
From: [personal profile] keelieinblack
Oh, and she did make it to Fandom Wank once, though in that she came off as more the...I don't know if 'injured party' is the correct term or not?

Date: 2009-04-29 07:50 pm (UTC)
denise: Image: Me, facing away from camera, on top of the Castel Sant'Angelo in Rome (Default)
From: [staff profile] denise
Aww, she deleted my first comment and Azz had to screen my second one. I was enjoying the snark!

Date: 2009-04-30 12:02 am (UTC)
dipping_sauce: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dipping_sauce
*jawdrop*

Wow. That's just... wow.

Date: 2009-04-30 07:52 am (UTC)
azurelunatic: "Fangirl": <user name="azurelunatic"> and a folding fan.  (fangirl)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
She and I went to the same college and were in the same anime club, although she was a regular member (perhaps an officer?) and my work schedule interfered with meetings so I couldn't often make it.

I do recall that there was some incident or other (this would have been sometime between April 2001 and May 2004; I could probably track down when if I cared) where there was an upset between her and the entire rest of the club. I learned about this in the mass-defriending that ensued. When I mentioned it to the rest of the club, I got an earful, but I don't recall any of the details now, only that the rest of the club was very, very angry.

Date: 2009-04-30 08:00 am (UTC)
azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
I'm thinking it would probably be a pretty big problem pretty fast, and Tupshin would never stand for it. (I love Tupshin.)

When I was looking yesterday, it was also quite apparent to me that she did not seem to understand how LJ's support system works, in private vs. public categories. If something gets moved to a private category, it's getting special handling. (Well, spam is a private category too, but stuff that's in a private category that gets answers is getting special handling.) LJ doesn't generally make policy decisions by means of petition, either.

Date: 2009-04-30 08:03 am (UTC)
azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
I was initially pleased to see her, because I had reasonably fond memories of everyone in the anime club, and I always get a bit of a kick out of seeing someone I know -- or even someone who's part of a rarer fandom that I'm in -- in [livejournal.com profile] suggestions. (We shall draw a veil over the ensuing events; suffice to say that my position as maintainer has me subscribed to all comments on all entries in [livejournal.com profile] suggestions, without the option of turning off the subscription for a single entry.)
Edited Date: 2009-04-30 08:04 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-04-30 08:13 am (UTC)
azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
The average person probably wouldn't. The last I saw, though, she didn't look ready to receive explanations about anything. At that point, she seemed to be ready to have a squadron of LJ's secret police come down and start deleting her entries.

Date: 2009-04-30 08:40 am (UTC)
azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
Oh, I can only imagine how much Feedback is going to love that. :D

Date: 2009-04-30 07:35 pm (UTC)
kali: FUJI SYUUSUKE CAN SEE YOU. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kali

I can't see any problems. Some people complain about serial adders, but if this is restritcted to permanent or paid accounts, there shouldn't be a problem.

The magical bandwidth fairies will save the day!

(Or maybe it's not bandwidth that's the issue, but you know. ^^;;)

Date: 2009-04-30 07:51 pm (UTC)
kali: FUJI SYUUSUKE CAN SEE YOU. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kali

(Do lj permanent accounts have automatic access to all add-on features?  Because if not then maybe they can make it an add-on she'll have to pay for continuously.  Seeing as it's so very important for her.  Hah, probably some of her friends will pay for it for her and she won't have to lose a penny for it....)

Date: 2009-04-30 10:08 pm (UTC)
kali: FUJI SYUUSUKE CAN SEE YOU. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kali

Well, she might not be willing to pay it herself, but I bet if it were made a feature that could be paid for, some of her 2000+ "friends" would be bound to step up... maybe?  (Is what she writes all that interesting?  I guess it would hinge on that, but based on her writing/analytical skills/behavior in this post, I'm not so impressed. XD)

And if someone were willing to pay for it for her, I'm betting she's not going to leave in a huff, or she would have done it already, you know?

Date: 2009-05-02 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] badtzhobby
I kind of wonder if all the drama were to lead to today's post or it's pure coincidence and I'm just too cynical.

Date: 2009-05-02 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] badtzhobby
I realized that was snarky of me.
http://hinoai.livejournal.com/722528.html

Date: 2009-05-02 03:59 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] badtzhobby
one wonders ...

May 2014

S M T W T F S
    123
45678910
11121314151617
18 192021222324
25262728293031

Most Popular Tags

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags