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More on Interop vs. Site Culture Preservation
Huh, it seems a lot of people are quite interested in the issue, as there are sixty comments (admittedly, a lot of those are mine, but anyway.)
Some highlights:
It was pointed out that crossposting might undermine pseudonomity, not in a general sense (newcomers changing the site culture), but in a specific sense (people's friends crossposting, and then the crossposter's FB friends coming over to DW, and then possibly finding them.) In other words, say that A and B both use DW and are linked here (through access/subscription). A blogs pseudononymously at DW and wishes to keep their RL identity and their pseudonoymous DW identity separate. B does not blog pseudononymously at DW, and so crossposts to FB. What if B's friends on FB decide, prompted by this, to go to DW? Then, it is possible that they might find A via B's profile or by reading B's read-list or some other means, thus undermining A's pseudononymity.
While this is an issue, I don't think this is one which should be solved by banning B from crossposting to FB, or otherwise discouraging them from doing so. The same problem would exist if B had a WP blog which linked to A's DW journal, and B was crossposting their WP blog to FB. It's an issue which exists when someone who is pseudononymous and someone who is not are publicly linked to each other: I am not sure how it is generally solved in other situations. (I personally solve it by keeping a strict separation, and also, on LJ and DW, not posting publicly RL info: location, birthday, etc.)
There was also the important point of how social networking sites are generally not monocultures, and how multiple norms may exist on other sites. In some parts of LJ, it is the norm for people to use IRL names, and not in other parts. I think this could occur on DW, and wouldn't necessarily be a problem either.
There was also a call for more non-LJ users on DW.
Also, I was thinking about Tumblr, and actually, it has some FB integration. This, in my limited anecdotal knowledge, has not undermine Tumblr's own culture, or made it difficult to blog pseudononymously there, as I do. In fact, I would say that Tumblr minimizes the above issue (undermining of pseudononimity by visible social media links) by allowing people to hide on their blog their lists of followers/followed.
Some highlights:
It was pointed out that crossposting might undermine pseudonomity, not in a general sense (newcomers changing the site culture), but in a specific sense (people's friends crossposting, and then the crossposter's FB friends coming over to DW, and then possibly finding them.) In other words, say that A and B both use DW and are linked here (through access/subscription). A blogs pseudononymously at DW and wishes to keep their RL identity and their pseudonoymous DW identity separate. B does not blog pseudononymously at DW, and so crossposts to FB. What if B's friends on FB decide, prompted by this, to go to DW? Then, it is possible that they might find A via B's profile or by reading B's read-list or some other means, thus undermining A's pseudononymity.
While this is an issue, I don't think this is one which should be solved by banning B from crossposting to FB, or otherwise discouraging them from doing so. The same problem would exist if B had a WP blog which linked to A's DW journal, and B was crossposting their WP blog to FB. It's an issue which exists when someone who is pseudononymous and someone who is not are publicly linked to each other: I am not sure how it is generally solved in other situations. (I personally solve it by keeping a strict separation, and also, on LJ and DW, not posting publicly RL info: location, birthday, etc.)
There was also the important point of how social networking sites are generally not monocultures, and how multiple norms may exist on other sites. In some parts of LJ, it is the norm for people to use IRL names, and not in other parts. I think this could occur on DW, and wouldn't necessarily be a problem either.
There was also a call for more non-LJ users on DW.
Also, I was thinking about Tumblr, and actually, it has some FB integration. This, in my limited anecdotal knowledge, has not undermine Tumblr's own culture, or made it difficult to blog pseudononymously there, as I do. In fact, I would say that Tumblr minimizes the above issue (undermining of pseudononimity by visible social media links) by allowing people to hide on their blog their lists of followers/followed.
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Does occur on DW. Obviously with me and
But yes, there're already issues; most of my original circle of LJ friends were real life friends I was at university with, and several used their real names openly, it was only when I started exploring I found out that "weird" pseudonyms were fairly normal.
There's always going to be a problem if you're linked to someone who's not pseudonymous and are linked elsewhere by real name, especially when it comes to personal journals.
I think in that case it's beholden on the person who's not being psuedonymous to try to respect your wishes for a bit of privacy; if they're your friend, they should respect that, I certainly try to (even so far as to not state a username was present/pictured at an event, etc).
DW already has multiple splintered smaller cultures, and several are on here in their real names (not just staff). That this is true is a Good Thing, to me, monocultures are boring.
See, now I have to go back and find the newer comments, it was 43 last time I looked, and I forgot to sub.
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Yeah, I think this really needs to be handled as something between the pseudononymous person and non-pseud person, especially if this involves voluntary links. Since there is a diversity of situations w/ nonymity on DW, IMHO DW should ideally give people the maximum possible flexibility and have them work things out socially by themselves.
I think the presence of multiple cultures actually makes the site stronger, and more likely to attract new blood.