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[personal profile] charmian
http://igrick.livejournal.com/510012.html (Russian language link)

From what I can understand via machine translation, he gives more details on the DDoS attacks and says that it has stopped for the moment, but they are still continuing the mitigation procedures. He also talks about the origin of the attacks, and the wording of the English language message about the DDos, which seems to have upset/confused some Russian speaking users.

[Some of the content in these posts is similar to this post on SUP's official webpage: http://www.sup.com/en/news_359.html]

http://igrick.livejournal.com/510275.html (also Russian language)

He also wrote a post about how there were lots of 500 and 503 errors while posting as a side effect of the mitigation. He says that there may be fewer errors when posting with an app using xml-rpc api. (For example, the iphone/ipad/android apps)

http://igrick.livejournal.com/511301.html (again, Russian language)

This seems to have a scan of an official communication written by SUP. At the end, if google translate is rendering this correctly, he's saying that there will be two weeks compensation for paid users.

Anyone out there who speaks Russian know what the scan says?

Date: 2011-08-01 01:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] marina
The first and the second link are the same and the third link seems to be a post with no scan in it whatsoever? It's just a notice that posting entries is OK again.

Date: 2011-08-01 01:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] marina
The scan is the official notice SUP files with Russian police authorities about the DDOS attacks, asking for a criminal investigation. They list the times when the site was down, various evidence such as IP addresses of attackers, the amount of estimated damages (which they've blacked out in the scan), etc. It's their formal letter from their lawyers addressed to a high ranking police official.

Date: 2011-08-01 01:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] synecdochic
Reading the comments to the first link (via Google Translate), it's somehow hysterical and reassuring to know that the phenemonon of "people who've never even touched a system anywhere near the same neighborhood of complexity thinking they know better than the people who do this shit every day just because they run Ubuntu on their desktop machine" transcends language. *G*

Date: 2011-08-01 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] behe_moth
Hi)
I speak Russian, actually it's my native language, but my English is far from perfect, sorry.
First link - he says that it was actually a DDoS attack, and all of technical specialists and IT experts (including Eugene Kaspersky - the head of well-known Kaspersky Labs) who doubt about it are wrong. He also says that the English version of the message to users where was told about technical problems, not attack, was written by system administrator who tried to calm American users down. I must say here that SUP has already got a very, VERY bad reputation because of its couldn't-care-less treatment of Russian users. For example it's known about Svetlana Ivannikova - the head of Livejournal Russia - referres Russian users as "fuckers". So most of Russian users don't believe much to what SUP says.

Date: 2011-08-02 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] behe_moth
>>I'm surprised that the English message caused so much upset

It's because the English and the Russian messages differ. English message says "Sorry for inconvenience, [we did something wrong]" and the Russian one "ALARM! ALARM!!1 Evil hackers attack!!!!". So this difference caused many conspirological theories about SUP's staff really did smth wrong and its representatives just lie to Russian users. Remember about SUP's reputation )

>>I wonder why they bothered writing a letter like that.

I think it's just a PR move to calm down users as they don't interested in this investigation to be real because it will reveal that there was no attack or it wasn't so catastrophic as SUP representatives affirm.

Date: 2011-08-01 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] behe_moth
Next, it seems that Google translated 2nd link right.
Scan is a scan of a letter from SUP's CEO to the Russian Home Affair minister Nurgaliev. She writes about LJ was DDoSed with GET flood attacks and reflection syn flood attacks from 12:30 07/26/2011. No technical data given. Actually this letter is totally useless because LJ is hosted in USA and the Russian police cannot investigate something there. Actually, this letter is equal to what you will be writing a letter to the head of DHS when somebody breaks in your house instead of calling 911.

Date: 2011-08-01 06:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] holyschist
Here is something I'm idly curious about: all the "compensation for paid users" I've see comes from the RU side. Do paid users on the COM side get compensated?

Date: 2011-08-01 08:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] holyschist
I'm just surprised this has been explicitly conveyed to the Russian users, but not the English-language side, at least anywhere I've seen so far.

Date: 2011-08-01 09:00 pm (UTC)
holyschist: Image of a medieval crocodile from Herodotus, eating a person, with the caption "om nom nom" (Default)
From: [personal profile] holyschist
Hmmmm, okay. Any idea why? It's one thing when they're developing separate features, but what do they have to gain by not mentioning things that will happen to both sides of the site in the English announcements?

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